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     Gunner updated 12 years, 2 months ago 9 Members · 54 Posts
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  • Gunner

    Member
    1 March 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Just looking at the Scott CR1 on the Westbrooks Site and I was looking at the choice of chainsets.

    39/52 34/50 30/39/50

    Question is, if you were buying or have bought this bike which one would you/did you go for and why?

    http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/our-online-shop/2009-early-intro-bikes/2009-scott-bikes/2009-scott-cr1/2009-scott-cr1-comp.html

  • mr-marty-martin

    Member
    1 March 2009 at 8:03 pm

    your buying the bike gunner, its your choice 😉 😉 😉

    😛

    i think there’s no need for a triple…

    and a double doesnt give you much of a spinning gear for going uphill depending on your cassette

    i’d go for the compact 😉

  • Gunner

    Member
    1 March 2009 at 8:13 pm

    I’m not saying I’m buying it, it’s just interesting looking at it, and the more I look the more I like………… 😉

  • hugo15

    Member
    1 March 2009 at 8:26 pm

    I got my triple before compact chainsets came on to the scene, but I really like it. Probably should add that I am no big gear masher and prefer to spin instead.

    The 30 is great for climbing, especially for longer trips round the moors when the climbs come one after another. I have Campag so I have a 42 middle ring, which I like for the flat but I also find OK for undulating riding. 52 outer ring for downhill blasts. I don’t like the fact that Shimano have gone for a 39 middle ring across the range now.

    If you look at the ride we did today, last time I did it on my winter bike with a standard 39/53 chainset. Today I did it on the triple and I would hazard a guess that I was quicker up the climbs today.

    I would be a bit worried that on a compact I would spend quick a bit of time chopping and changing between the front rings, especially on undulating terrain. This is not based on fact though as I have never ridden one.

    I would probably stick with the triple.

  • Gunner

    Member
    1 March 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Yes, I very much agree, given that I like to do a lot of riding around the area we were in today, Danby, Lealholm, Castleton etc., I think the triple is the wisest choice, as you say, the hills come one after the other and a compact may well have me with one hand permanently on the gear lever. 😆 😆

    As you know my OCR Team Replica runs a triple and I’m more than happy with it 😀

  • Richard A Thackeray

    Member
    2 March 2009 at 12:13 am

    Digressing slightly.

    There was an ‘Addict CX’ on one of the trade stands at the National Cyclo-Cross Championship (@ Bradford, in January)

    Now, that was a seriously (sub 16Ib!) sexy bit of kit

  • HarryB

    Member
    2 March 2009 at 7:47 am

    Gunner, I wasn’t aware you had a triple on the Giant. I’m surprised. You seem like a strong, fit rider and I can’t believe that you ever use the small ring. I guess you use it once in a blue moon.

    As you know, I have a Scott CRI that I’ve had for over two years and I couldn’t have been happier with the bike. It’s an excellent choice and I reckon in that price bracket it’s unbeatable. Also, you know you’ll get a good deal and superb after sales service from Westbrooks.

    Onto my thoughts on gears. My CR1 has a standard 52/39 chainring but I didn’t give that any choice. The bike was in the sale so that’s what I got.

    When I bought my Pinarello Prince I gave everything a great deal more thought but also relied on the advice from the lads in Westbrooks which I have to say was spot on. The Prince has a Campagnolo Record compact 50/34 chainset.

    My newest bike is a Ridley Noah that Westbrooks are building up for me this week. Based on my experiences with the other two bikes and what I’ll be using the Noah for, I’ve gone for a standard Campag Record 53/39.

    There was never any other thoughts in my mind with gearing on the Prince. I knew I’d be using it for very hilly sportives and for going to the Alps therefore I needed gearing to suit. I knew that there was no way I’d put a triple on such a beautiful road bike (aesthetics). It has a 12-25 or 13-26 on the back depending which wheels I put on.

    So, has the gearing choice served me well? As you know, I went to the Alps with the Prince and did some of the toughest road bike climbs in the world. Col de Colombiere, Alpe D’Huez, Galibier and the little known monster Colle della Finestre that is 40km from bottom to top with 6km of unmade road at the top and gradients of up to 12%. I don’t pretend that there weren’t one or two occasions when my legs were wasted and I wished I’d had one or two more gears left but generally speaking I was fine for 90% of the time and on the last day when we did Lauteret, Galibier and Alpe d’Huez I was one of the strongest riders and literally ‘flew up’ Galibier with a couple of cogs to spare.

    I’ve also used the Prince on all of the toughest sportives and apart from the notorious Rosedale Chimney, I’ve climbed every tough hill and I certainly wouldn’t describe myself as a good climber.

    In October/November I went to Majorca and took the Scott. Although the hills are not as steep as the ones in N Yorks or as long as the Alps, there are some pretty stiff climbs (most of the pro teams train there) but I was fine with the 53/39 Ultegra double. Again, there were one or two long, hard days when I wished I was on the Prince with the compact but generally speaking I had no regrets about giving the Scot a run out.

    So, why did I plump for a standard 53/39 for the Ridley Noah? Simple. The Prince is an ideal superlight climbing bike so I don’t need a second one. The Noah will be used for fast training rides and based on my experience with the Scott set-up I know that I’ll be able to tackle all but the toughest gradients.

    You have to make your own choice but I don’t think there is any need for you to have a triple. You are a good climber. I know you like the hills so I think a standard set-up is out. I reckon the compact set-up will be perfect for you.

    Sorry for the very long reply but I thought my experience may help you decide.

  • Gunner

    Member
    2 March 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Sorry for the very long reply but I thought my experience may help you decide.

    Yes, very well put Harry.

    And thank you for the long reply, it’s the type of information our Forum Members want to read, I’m sure. 😉

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not going for the bike as such as I’ve said before, but it’s certainly an interesting bike for the price and one that deserves discussion.

    The arguments you pose may also help me (and others I’m sure) make an informed decision when it comes to replacing my chainset. 😀

  • HarryB

    Member
    2 March 2009 at 5:17 pm

    If our chums at Westbrook do me proud on Wednesday and the weather warms up a bit I could be on the roads next week on the new bike. I’m already getting VERY excited about it

  • Gunner

    Member
    2 March 2009 at 5:26 pm

    If our chums at Westbrook do me proud on Wednesday and the weather warms up a bit I could be on the roads next week on the new bike. I’m already getting VERY excited about it

    RUDDY NORAH, Harry, with a bike like that to look forward to, who wouldn’t be getting VERY excited…….. 😆 😆

  • mr-marty-martin

    Member
    2 March 2009 at 5:34 pm

    so whats the build speck then harry???

    something amazing i susspect…

    dont tell me its getting the new 15 hundred pound shimano groupy…

    but i think yur a campag kinda guy 😉

  • HarryB

    Member
    2 March 2009 at 7:30 pm

    If our chums at Westbrook do me proud on Wednesday and the weather warms up a bit I could be on the roads next week on the new bike. I’m already getting VERY excited about it

    RUDDY NORAH, Harry, with a bike like that to look forward to, who wouldn’t be getting VERY excited…….. 😆 😆

    It’s not a Ruddy Norah. It’s a Ridley Noah but I like that. I’ll call it my Ruddy Norah.

  • HarryB

    Member
    2 March 2009 at 7:33 pm

    so whats the build speck then harry???

    something amazing i susspect…

    dont tell me its getting the new 15 hundred pound shimano groupy…

    but i think yur a campag kinda guy 😉

    It’s actually using many of the bits that were left over when the Prince was upgraded.

    Campag Chorus groupset, Mavic Ksyrium ES wheels and the sexiest bars you’ll ever see in your life. White bars, white tape, white saddle and white pedals. Euro bling all the way.

  • mr-marty-martin

    Member
    2 March 2009 at 7:35 pm

    dont say there the carbon bars…

    total waste of money i think, some of the non carbon ones actualy weigh less…

    a very honust bloke at the bike shop was telling us about them…

  • Gunner

    Member
    2 March 2009 at 7:42 pm

    It’s the bars you posted a picture of before, isn’t it Harry. ❓

    So sexy, they could be Italian……….. 😆 😆

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