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  • Sram Rival vs. Ultegra

     HarryB updated 10 years, 11 months ago 7 Members · 34 Posts
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  • MikeBoro

    Member
    2 January 2010 at 9:15 pm

    I’ve finally bit the bullet and bought my new bike. I’ve gone for the 2009 Addict R4 with a few upgrades. I was going to go for the 2010 Addict R2, but got the R4 which has the same frame. I’ve upgraded the handlebars, seat and wheels. Also gone for the Michelin Pro 3 tyres. All of these components are better than those on the 2010 R2, but the overall price comes £300 less.

    The R2 has the Ultegra 6700 groupset where as the R4 has the Sram Rival groupset. From what I understand the Sram costs less than the Ultegra but is very close in terms of weight and performance. I’m just hoping I get away with the double tap system. Anyone got any experience with Sram groupsets?

  • hugo15

    Member
    2 January 2010 at 9:38 pm

    So you did it then! Very funny in Tesco this morning with us both looking trying recognise each other when not wearing cycling kit!

    So what seat, bars and wheels did you go for? Good choice on the tyres.

    I have no experience of SRAM, though I thought that the Force groupset, which is the one above Rival was more comparable to Ultegra (C+ Magazine did a groupset test a couple of mths ago featuring Shimano Ultegra, SRAM Force and Campag Athena).

    BTW, this thread is useless without pictures of the new bike 😀 .

  • MikeBoro

    Member
    2 January 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Yes, it was funny. I was saying to the missus, I’ve only ever seen Steve in lycra and a funny hat before.

    The seat is a Fizik Arione CX Carbon. The wheels are Mavic Ksyrium SL Premium. Can’t remember the make of the handlebars, they are a set of a carbon that were on sale at Westbooks. Also went for the Look Keo 2 Max pedals.

    I’ve paid the deposit on the bike, picking it up next week. I may even have chance to change it, especially if Harry comes on to tell me that I’ve made a mistake. 🙂

    Edit: I think the Sram Rival is above the Shimano 105 but below the Ultegra. Similar or possibly lighter in weight to the Ultegra groupset.

  • hugo15

    Member
    2 January 2010 at 10:39 pm

    I think the Sram Rival is above the Shimano 105 but below the Ultegra. Similar or possibly lighter in weight to the Ultegra groupset.

    Yes, had a quick look over on Bikeradar and what I read backs this up.

    Whether you go for SRAM, Shimano or Campag is just down to personal preference.

    Nice set of wheels and saddles you have chosen. I got an standard Arione saddle late last year. Only done a few rides on it so far but it seems good.

  • HarryB

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 7:53 am

    Excellent frame. Good wheels. There are better groupsets around but they cost a lot more and SRAM are building up a very loyal following.

    I’ve ridden Paul’s (Westbrooks) Addict a couple of times on decent length rides (cos he always wants to have a go of my bikes) and have been hugely impressed by the Addict’s handling. He has SRAM Red on his and although the double tap took a bit of getting used to I was 100% fine with it after 20 minutes or so.

    Just about any bike can be improved but for the money you’ve spent I’m sure you’ve got the best bang for your bucks as the Yanks would say. I’m also sure you’ll love the bike.

    Personally I’d have gone for Continental GP4000s tyres but I say that all the time . . . and nobody takes a blind bit of notice 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    Enjoy the bike, Ride it as much as you can and think yourself lucky you’ve got such a nice bike

  • MikeBoro

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 9:03 am

    Harry, I’d had my heart set on the 2010 R2, as you know I was also considering the CR1 pro. The 2010 CR1 pro is very similar to the R2 the frame is a few grams heavier with a different geometry.

    As a newbie I’m not that confident when picking kit, so I am in the hands of the LBS guys when it comes to choosing upgrade kit. It’s a lot of money to spend and I can’t afford to get it wrong. The upgraded 2009 R4 seems better than the 2010 R2 on paper, my only concern was the groupset. The Sram is cheaper than the Ultegra but from what I’ve read it isn’t that much different. There is the double tap system, which sounds quite good, if I get the hang of it.

    I’m sure I’ll enjoy the bike, when I eventually get to ride it. I fear that may be some time.

  • Gunner

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 9:44 am

    Congratulations on your new bike, Mike. 😀

    Good choice on wheels and tyres, I find the Michelin Pro 3 tyres absolutely superb.

    Can’t wait to see it in the flesh, although pictures will do, when you get it. 😉

  • MikeBoro

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 11:21 am

    Cheers gunner, as soon as I get it I will post some pics up.

  • grant

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 11:48 am

    Congratulations mike on new bike

    looking forward to seeing it by the way i have that spinerval dvd for you will give you it next i see you .

    grant

  • MikeBoro

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 1:49 pm

    Congratulations mike on new bike

    looking forward to seeing it by the way i have that spinerval dvd for you will give you it next i see you .

    grant

    Thanks grant. I was on the turbo trainer this morning, I was very disapointed, the only way is up I suppose. Don’t know if it was because it’s been a few weeks since I was last on it, or the fact I did a particularly tough spinning session at the gym yesterday.

  • hugo15

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Mike – what was the aim of your session today?

    The reason I ask is that in previous years I would get on the turbo with no real plan of what I was going to do and found the turbo sessions very hard (but was probably more bored).

    This year I am trying to be more structured and have an aim for each session. For example today’s session was 1 hour keeping my HR between 75% and 85% on Max. I actually didn’t change gear today, just used increases and decreases in cadence (up or down 5 bpm as each song changed on the MP3) to move the HR around within the prescribed zone. I have also found the Spinerval DVD that Grant mentions to be a useful training aid while on the turbo, but I am a bit wary of using my laptop in the garage at the moment as it is so cold in there.

  • MikeBoro

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Mike – what was the aim of your session today?

    To be honest, my aim was just to get on the bike again, after a few weeks off it.

    I usually try to maintain 75% max heart rate for between 45 and 60 mins. My plan is to do something a bit more structured this year. I did a 45 minute spinning class yesterday which had some big climbs and a few sprints in it. Think I may have tired my legs out with that.

    I’m doing nothing with cadence yet, but will have a look at rigging the cadence measuring kit on my Tacx.

  • MikeBoro

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Hugo, I bought The Time Crunched Cyclist by Chris Carmichael just before Christmas. Hoping it will give some inspiration and good advice. This also looks a useful article http://www.bikeradar.com/fitness/article/fitness-basics-turbo-training-24170 from bikeradar.

  • hugo15

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 3:16 pm

    Hugo, I bought The Time Crunched Cyclist by Chris Carmichael just before Christmas. Hoping it will give some inspiration and good advice.

    Have you read it yet? I have been thinking about getting.

    6 hours a week doesn’t sound very much but that’s still 3 x 1 hour turbo sessions and a 3 hour ride on a weekend. 6 hours a week is about the max I can fit in with work and family stuff to consider as well.

    This website has a load of different turbo sessions

    http://www.turbotraining.co.uk/

  • MikeBoro

    Member
    3 January 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Hugo, I bought The Time Crunched Cyclist by Chris Carmichael just before Christmas. Hoping it will give some inspiration and good advice.

    Have you read it yet? I have been thinking about getting.

    6 hours a week doesn’t sound very much but that’s still 3 x 1 hour turbo sessions and a 3 hour ride on a weekend. 6 hours a week is about the max I can fit in with work and family stuff to consider as well.

    This website has a load of different turbo sessions

    http://www.turbotraining.co.uk/

    Just started reading it, realistically 6 hours is the max I can manage. Perhaps a little more when doing the longer weekend rides.

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