Member20 November 2009 at 3:33 pm
I have a Scott Speedster S30, it has the triple Ultegra groupset. Looking to spend £2700, so was thinking of the Scott CR1 Pro or possibly the Addict R2.
As I understand the geometry of the CR1 is built more for the Sportive and distance rides, which would probably suit me.
Do I stick with Scotts so that I can use the S30 as a winter bike/turbo trainer, keeping similar geometry. Or should I look at different brands?
Do I go for a compact?
Or is the sensible thing stick with the speedster for now and wait, perhaps buy at the end of the year and pick up bargain?
Member20 November 2009 at 4:18 pm
i would wait for a few months then see whats being discounted.
Member20 November 2009 at 4:35 pm
Makes sense Jeff, by end of the year, I mean end of 2010.
Member20 November 2009 at 4:37 pm
TBH Mike I would just get out and ride the Speedster though the winter and build up your fitness. Once you get to the Spring time you can then decide if you want to buy a new bike. You are pretty new to cycling. You seem to have been bitten by the bug but if I was you I would see if I was still into it after the winter before I decided to splash out the best part of three grand. It’s a lot of cash to have just sitting in the garage if your enthusiasm levels drop.
Asking what bike to get will get you about as many different answers as there are brands of bike ……………. everyone will recommend the one they have. I, for example, would recommend getting a titanium bike for the summer, because that’s what I ride. I love it and can’t think of anything better …………… but there again I have never ridden a carbon bike!!
Member20 November 2009 at 4:45 pm
Thanks hugo and Jeff, sounds good advice. I will stop looking at bikes on the internet whilst at work. It’s dangerous. 🙂
Member20 November 2009 at 5:00 pm
haha tell me about it
Member20 November 2009 at 6:07 pm
I agree with Hugo.
Ride the Speedster through the Winter, concentrate on getting out as much as possible, even if only short rides, 1 to 2 hours due to the cold or whatever.
Then come Spring, get out and do some longer, harder stuff, bit of climbing, descending, fast flat, etc., etc., then see how you feel.
If you want, then get a bike or hang about and see what the sales do.
One thing for sure, you can always gaurantee Westbrooks will do you a damned good deal on whatever you go for. 😉
Member20 November 2009 at 7:51 pm
Mike, I’m a bit confused. You are talking about spending £2,700 on a bike but you mention a Scott CR1. I have one. They cost a lot less than £2,700. Like £1,000 less.
But, assuming you want to spend £2,700 on a bike (and I’d be the last to talk you out of it) and assuming you want a Scott (and I wouldn’t talk you out of that either) here’s what I’d do.
1. Buy a Scott Addict frame from Westbrooks now. They have a few in at ridiculous prices. You’ll get one for about £1,000.
I’d then look at the frame all winter and decide what you are going to put on it in terms of groupset, bars, wheels.
Get it built in the Spring and you’ll have endless hours of sheer joy on a dream machine that you’ve put together rather than an off the peg bike that someone else has built to hit a particular price point in the market.
I’m a Campag man but taking into account YOUR preferences it would be Addict frame, SRAM Red groupset, Ritchey bars and stem and some wheels of your choice. The bike would also be below the UCI legal weight limit.
There you go. My tuppeneth
Member20 November 2009 at 8:13 pm
I was looking at the CR1 Pro, reviewed in Nov 5th cycling weekly. They had it at £2,499. Apparently they have changed the frame design slightly, to suit the Sportive and long distance riders. Increased head tube size, the frame is also designed to obsorb the bumps, thus giving more comfort. According to cycling weekly it still gives ‘racer-esque handling’. (I thought it would be an ideal bike for the Northern Rock Cyclone)
The Addict would be £2,699. Possibly a bit too stiff and more of an out and out racer for me.
I imagine after I’ve bought the pedals and other bits and pieces I wouldn’t get much change out of £2,700 if I went for the CR1 Pro.
Member20 November 2009 at 8:52 pm
Mike, all this journalist tosh about frames makes my blood boil. It’s mostly marketing bollocks. Sportives are enjoying massive popularity so bike firms are cashing in on that.
1. My Ridley Noah is classed (according to reviews) as a pure bred race bike favoured by sprinters. You could have fooled me. I’ve ridden it for thousands of miles and it’s very comfortable and I’d have no hesitation doing a Sportive on it.
2. My Pinarello Prince is brilliant at climbing, incredible at sprinting, superbly comfortable even over 100 mile rides and handles like a dream on fast downhills. God knows what you’d class it as but I bet someone has tried.
3. I’ve ridden an Addict and it’s a very nice bike. I certainly wouldn’t say it was harsh or racy or twitchy. In fact I’d say it was a great choice for the sportive rider. The fact that it’s so light is an added bonus.
4. My Scott CR1 Pro has been ridden by lots of different people. Everyone who has ridden it has loved it and some have raved about it like it was God’s gift to bike. I used to think the same . . . and then I rode other bikes. I still rate the Scott CR1 highly enough to recommend it to mates but I personally wouldn’t buy one again as my experience with bikes has changed my tastes.
Sorry if all of the above sounds snobby or that I’m up my own arse. It’s just genuine advice based on a LOT of riding on different bikes.
For the sort of money you are going to spend there are no bad bikes. I could give you a list a mile long but I’d say just buy what you fancy and get out and ride it. It’s very, very unlikely you’ll be disappointed.
Just don’t even think about buying a Planet-x 😈 😈 😈 😈
NB I’ve just re-read the post and it’s a bit rambling but I can’t be arsed to change it
Member20 November 2009 at 8:55 pm
Mike, Westbrooks have an Addict frame on eBay for £900. Now that’s what I call a real bargain. Top groupset, bling wheels and you’d get loads of change from your budget
Member20 November 2009 at 10:51 pm
The advice is much appreciated Harry. I was actually going to say that a lot of it sounded like marketing blurb, well as far as the Scott website was concerned. I possibly gave the cycling weekly reviewer a bit more respect though.
What size frame is the Addict on ebay, do you have a link?
My plan, is to make the speedster my winter/training bike. I’m going to try and wait until the spring for a new bike. But you know what it’s like, you start looking and reading the reviews. 🙂
Member21 November 2009 at 5:13 am
Mike, I just spotted they have ann even better bargain. They have a beautiful white Addict R4 frameset for £799. It’s a 54cm. If I didn’t already have six bikes I’d be buying that.
They have that in a 54cm and another in a 56cm.
I would give Racing Paul at Westbrooks a ring first thing this morning and ask what they have. Tell him Prince Harry sent you 😉
Paul and Mark have built four bikes for me and do a brilliant job. Paul will be able to advise you on everything you need to build your dream bike and then come spring he’ll build you your dream bike.
You could get an Addict with infinitely better kit on it for less than that price you quoted for the CR1.
How tall are you BTW?
Member21 November 2009 at 2:59 pm
Have you seen the Addict R2 (56cm) a freind of mine is selling. Its on the thread titled Possible Bargain…….
Member22 November 2009 at 7:59 pm
Just don’t even think about buying a Planet-x 😈 😈 😈 😈
Why not Planet X? They have some cracking deals at times and judging by the threads over on Bikeradar lots of satisfied customers.
What’s your view on Titanium bikes Harry? As you know I am a big fan.